"Spiritual Direction is a charism, not a profession. I take issue with those who insist on "credentials" as this is not part of any tradition regarding SD. It is not psychotherapy and it is not spiritual theology. It is, as Staretz Siloan…"
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Ray Ball commented on Ray Ball's blog post Bi-vocationalism and seminary"I grew up as a "GI brat," and getting into the process in college ROTC showed me that I couldn't live with that system. Now 30 years of service in the church has shown me the same thing about this system. I feel like one of the…"
Jon F. Dewey commented on Ray Ball's blog post Bi-vocationalism and seminary"One change that I think most likely needs to be implemented is an "exception to the rule" track where those like us who have come from other denominations, who already have the training and experience can be called and ordained in a more…"
Ray Ball commented on Ray Ball's blog post Bi-vocationalism and seminary"Jon,
Thanks for the input. I agree that the system is broken, acting more as a gatekeeper then a real discernment and empowering agent for change. Maybe the ACNA will learn from their mistakes and become a real agent of change. At any rate, I fear…"
Jon F. Dewey commented on Ray Ball's blog post Bi-vocationalism and seminary"Your comments are very similar to ones that I posted on my blog as "Ordination, education, and the future." I too came from a different denomination. Its very disheartening when all your previous academic and pastoral work is…"
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I formally served in a denomination that did not require a seminary education for its clergy, only a bachelor's level Bible college degree which could be completed after ordination. That denomination expected its ministers to be bi-vocational and it served them well. In the Episcopal church I was trained in an alternative program designed for "later vocations," and our folks usually did much better on GOE's than the residential seminaries did. It was designed for those who wanted to serve, not…See More
Ray Ball left a comment for Jerry Lowe"Hi, Gerry. I'm keeping busy with supply wrok. I'll be in the Colony next Sunday, then Mesquite, Garlad and Denton to finish out the month. Hope you are doing well. I sure miss All Saints."
Jerry Lowe left a comment for Ray Ball"Hi Fr. Ray please email me re: where else you are preaching etc."
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Bi-vocationalism and seminary
I formally served in a denomination that did not require a seminary education for its clergy, only a bachelor's level Bible college degree which could be completed after ordination. That denomination expected its ministers to be bi-vocational and it served them well. In the Episcopal church I was trained in an alternative program designed for "later vocations," and our folks usually did much better on GOE's than the residential seminaries did. It was designed for those who wanted to serve,…
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- Hi Fr. Ray please email me re: where else you are preaching etc.
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