"This was not intended as a criticism of what is being referred to as emergent, but instead a criticism of what has been the typical approach to this problem of dwindling congregations. Replace the organ with a praise band, the nave with a gym, etc.…"
"Be sure to read Phyllis Tickle's book The Great Emergence. I think you and she are connecting at a number of levels.
Perhaps my cock-eyed optimism is shaping what I'm seeing, but I have to disagree with your statement: "We are, for…"
"I would like to amend my analogy from above. I said it is like we are spitting on a forest fire. It is perhaps more like we are planting trees in front of a forest fire in hopes of saving the forest."
Thank you for your thoughts. Let me update you on some of my thoughts as this conversation/discussion has re-shaped my thesis. Jon- thank you for your thoughts about SGN. Paul Fromberg is my reader so most likely the paper will be shaped…"
Very good point; I agree.
(And BTW, it occurred to me that I should mention, lest Aaron think I'm spurning this conversation, that Dean and I got together for coffee and talked live a while ago, since…"
My two cents on your questions: the few times where I have seen Anglican liturgy used in non-Anglican settings have been in a multidenominational seminary context--those of us familiar with Episcopal/Anglican liturgies have initiated them…"
"just want to underline Aaron's observation re post-modernity and youth/cool. emerging/emergent groups should be seekign to incarnate faith in post-modernity, as such thay are church for post-modern people not for young adults...which is why in…"
"P.S., and yep, I'd certainly be more than happy to get together for coffee, since we're in the same neck of the woods! In fact, if you happen to be available this Friday during the day, let me know - I've got the whole day free."
"Hi Dean, I will definitely weigh in on this, as helpfully as I can - I see there are a lot of words in the discussion already, and a quick scan makes me think they're quality words :-) but I don't have the time just now to respond…"
"Thanks again Aaron. I really do appreciate this. I know I need to get the language around this hammered out. Furthermore, talking about a seemingly postmodern phenomenon in a Thesis paper seems somewhat counter intuitive. Yet, can we can agree that…"
It sounds like you’ve done some good thinking and researching already. I’m really happy to see a future church leader taking these issues so seriously, because I do believe how the Anglican/Episcopal church responds (or…"
"Quick thoughts from my phone ....
I certainly think there is something in the 'Reformed Catholic' DNA of the Anglican Church that is resonant with any emergent community that is looking beyond its protestant heritage.
Thanks for your response. All thoughts are invaluable at this point. I am looking for ways to clarify my vocabulary as well, so criticism is welcome. I am often (if not always) guilty of speaking/typing before thinking. I know the emergent…"
First, I’m really hoping that Mike Croghan responds to this post because I know he’ll have a lot of really valuable insight.
Second, I don’t know if my perspective will be valuable to you all, but here’s my ‘two…"
P.S., and yep, I'd certainly be more than happy to get together for coffee, since we're in the same neck of the woods! In fact, if you happen to be available this Friday during the day, let me know - I've got the whole day free.
Hi Dean, I will definitely weigh in on this, as helpfully as I can - I see there are a lot of words in the discussion already, and a quick scan makes me think they're quality words :-) but I don't have the time just now to respond thoughtfully - and I'd like to do that. Probably tomorrow evening or Friday, I'll respond. It's really an excellent question!